Re: [pronut-hiv] Genetically modified foods are big business (4)

["Marco MENESES" <marcomeneses@msn.com>]

   I dont agree with Rachel Stern.

   I  feel  that the writings of Mr George M. Carter, are VERY appropiate
   to this forum.

   He  is not somebody who thinks that nutrition is just Biochemistry, or
   a  chit  chat about nutrients without taking in account the socail and
   political context.

   That  is  the problem of the USA nutritionist and Dietitians. 

   Nutrition  is not just food or nutrients, the same way that sex is not
   just the sex act.

   George  helps us THINK OUT OF THE BOX.
   
Marco MENESES

---"George M. Carter" wrote:
     >    [---Rachel Stern wrote:
     >      George  -Your  posts  on  nutrition  are always interesting,
     sometimes
     >      provocative  and  i  don't  always  agree,  but  I  like  to
     receive them.
     >      As  far  as  your  political  views,  I  can  quickly delete
     them if I
     >      don't want to read
     >      them.  But  probably  some  people  on  this  listserve have
     limited
     >      computer  space  or  slow  internet  connections,  and  they
     may not
     >      appreciate  getting  the  political stuff if they are on the
     listserve
     >      for nutrition. Just my guess.]
     >
     >    Happily,  they  messages  are  short  and  even  a  dial-up
     connection
     >    wouldn't  be  overburdensome.  And indeed, I figure people can
     read 'em,
     >    delete  'em  or  get  hopping  mad--or maybe have a good belly
     laugh that
     >    someone  is  crazy  enough to say this stuff out loud. But I'm
     gonna say
     >    it!
     >    And  as  long  as  it  stays on point and doesn't devolve into
     personal
     >    acrimony,  I  think  the  issues  I raise are the kind we NEED
     to talk
     >    about.
     >
     >      [ BTW, there's a vitamin supplement designed for people with
     diabetes
     >      but  that  you  may  want  to  look  into  for  your  HIV
     patients.
     >      AlphaBetic,  I  believe is the name, but I'll check and give
     you the
     >      mfr,  if  you're  interested.  Seems  like  a  good  and  in
     clusive
     >      formulation,  though  maybe  not  in  the  high  amounts you
     seem to
     >      favor.  Rachel]
     >
     >    I'd love to hear more about it. What's in it?  I think dosages
     need to
     >    depend  on  the  person,  situation,  etc.  I  would  LOVE  to
     see some
     >    "dose-ranging"  studies  of  multis,  for  example.  The funny
     thing is, I
     >    feel   among   some  of  my  HIV+  colleagues  that  are  into
     supplements that I
     >    take  the  more  conservative  view  with  using them!! I know
     folks who
     >    literally take bags full of pills several times a day. I don't
     know if
     >    that  is  the right approach or not--but some folks I know for
     years are
     >    alive  I  think  in part because of that whereas other friends
     who didn't
     >    do  as  much  have died. I'm thinking of the folks who more or
     less have
     >    been  around  since  the  80s  with  this,  often  having gone
     through
     >    sequential monotherapy, two-drugs, then PIs and what not.
     >    So -- no easy answers.
     >    And thanks for the info on selenium-soil--fascinating stuff.
     >    George