Re: [pronut-hiv] BBC: Vitamins 'may up pregnancy risk' (3)

["Rachel Stern" <sternworks@verizon.net>]

Hi, George.

Some of the vitamin formulators ARE divisions of big pharma.

Although I agree that a good mvi is important in many situations including 
hiv infection, I personally find megadoses of some nutrients scary.

Rachel


----- "George M. Carter" wrote:


> At 04:47 PM 3/31/2006, you wrote:
>>Vitamins 'may up pregnancy risk'
>>
>>High doses of vitamin supplements may raise the risk of pre-eclampsia in
>>pregnant women rather than protecting against it, research suggests.
>
> Maybe. I'm very concerned about the recent spate of studies all pointing 
> to the terrible evils of supplements. So I want to read the ORIGINAL 
> study.
>
> When you get past the headlines, one finds some really sleazy crap by the
> media. But I'm no longer surprised after the suck-up session that led up 
> to the lies of war in Iraq.
>
> Let's take the example of glucosamine/chondroitin. The headlines? IT
> DOESN"T WORK!!
>
> But what did the study show?
> For MILD pain/knee arthritis, not much benefit. A slight advantage for
> Celebrex.
>
> For moderate-to-severe?
> Glucosamine alone - modest benefit (they used the HCl form, not the
> probably better sulfate form).
> Ditto chondroitin alone.
> Improvements were seen in Celebrex...but not that great.
> The combination of G/C? TWICE as good as Celebrex.
>
> Guess what? A plethora of the scientists who brought this have had nice,
> cozy relations with Pfizer.
>
> Another example is the egregious insanity of that horrifically poorly done
> meta-analysis of Vitamin E.  Presuming ANYTHING legitimate can be drawn
> from that evaluation, the WORST you can say is that higher dose E may
> increase the risk of mortality among the elderly ill by 0.39%.
>
> Excuse me?
>
> And there's been LOTS of this. I have NO problem with well done studies
> that show no benefit or a problem. But it seems that the sleaze of pharma
> has reached in to the last bastions of credible research from universities
> to hospitals and everything is about Spin...and it all goes back to an FDA
> document prior to DSHEA's development where they note that "dietary
> supplements should not act as a disincentive to drug development." I
> remember being one of the first to read and report on that outrageous
> commentary.
>
> I am NOT convinced by all dietary supplements. There in it to make money
> too. But I AM convinced that many can be extremely helpful and often in
> ways that work better than the rape of our healthcare system by Pharma's
> pricing schemes.
>
> The lies are almost as thick as the crap that pours unfettered from Bush's
> mouth on a daily basis.
>
> And the effects are lethal to literally millions worldwide, denied access
> to clean water, food, multivitamin therapy and generic drugs and 
> treatment.
>
> When the hell is enough enough?
> George M. Carter
>
>